I use the conversation view so I can keep track of threads, but it's confusing not seeing my own replies in the list. Is there a way to get it to show my replies by default?
I can see my replies if I click a thread and then click the Conversation arrow shaped button. But what I want is to see my replies in the thread list on the left by default.
I have the same problem in Outlook 2011 for Mac; I think this configuration is not possible.
As shown in the following links from the MS documentation, it looks like the option exists for the Windows version, but it is not available in the Mac OS X version. As you alluded to, (your own) sent messages appear in in "reading pane" but do not render in the message list.
One workaround is to automatically BCC yourself on everything. Enable this by Outlook menu -> Preferences... -> Email section -> Composing -> Format and account section -> enable "When sending messages, automatically BCC myself." This will have the effect of putting a copy of messages you send into your Inbox, so they will render in the conversation view/pane. I'm not sure if this will result in duplicate messages rendering in the "reading pane" for conversations. I'm personally not willing to do this, but it should/does work.
Until or unless...
this interface (and its inconsistency) is unusable. Back to Apple Mail for me.
I found the answer! It involves using the applescript editor to get it to work.
http://joe.blog.freemansoft.com/2016/02/received-and-sent-messages-in-single.html
- Run Outlook
- Highlight the Mailbox we are going to include, Inbox or Sent. We want to get this mailbox's folder id.
- Start a Mac Spotlight search
- Enter ~applesoft~
AppleScript Editorand Enter to bring up the applesoft editor.Enter the following in the applescript editor and run it
on run {} tell application "Microsoft Outlook" get selected folder end tell end runIt should return the results of the execution mail folder id
109of application "Microsoft Outlook" Do the same thing for the other mailbox. My mailbox numbers were109(Inbox) and112(Sent)
- Click on the Search field in the upper right hand corner of the Outlook view.
- This will enable the search tab and ribbon
- Select the Search tab
- Make sure you are still have a normal mailbox selected (not a Smart Folder)
- Select "All Mail" in the Ribbon Bar
- Press the Advanced search button in the ribbon
- Select Raw Query from the drop list.
Enter the following query, replacing
109and112with the mailboxes numbers retrieved above.com_microsoft_outlook_folderID == 109 || com_microsoft_outlook_folderID == 112Press Enter. The message list should populate with the combined content of the two folders. Conversations in this combined Index/Sent folder will include both inbound and outbound messages.
- Press Save Search in the Search ribbon bar and enter the name of your new Smart Folder.
Another helpful link was a list of all the Raw Query keys:
https://gist.github.com/EmilVarona/78ae2aff409922686ebff4cea785aed4
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<schema version="1.0" xmlns="http://www.apple.com/metadata" xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" xsi:schemaLocation="http://www.apple.com/metadata file:///System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Frameworks/Metadata.framework/Resources/MetadataSchema.xsd">
<!--
Compiled from /Applications/Microsoft\ Outlook.app/Contents/Library/Spotlight/Microsoft\ Outlook\ Spotlight\ Importer.mdimporter/Contents/Resources/schema.xml
with info from http://xensoft.com/search-mac-outlook-2011-mail-with-raw-queries/
-->
<types>
<type name="com.microsoft.outlook15.contact">
<allattrs>
kMDItemTitle
kMDItemPhoneNumbers
kMDItemEmailAddresses
kMDItemInstantMessageAddresses
kMDItemContentModificationDate
com_microsoft_outlook_recordID
com_microsoft_outlook_folderID
com_microsoft_outlook_accountID
kMDItemCity
kMDItemStateOrProvince
kMDItemCountry
com_microsoft_outlook_flag
com_microsoft_outlook_nickname
com_microsoft_outlook_company
com_microsoft_outlook_department
com_microsoft_outlook_jobTitle
com_microsoft_outlook_homeURL
com_microsoft_outlook_workURL
com_microsoft_outlook_bloodType
com_microsoft_outlook_spouse
com_microsoft_outlook_customFld1
com_microsoft_outlook_customFld2
com_microsoft_outlook_customFld3
com_microsoft_outlook_customFld4
com_microsoft_outlook_customFld5
com_microsoft_outlook_customFld6
com_microsoft_outlook_customFld7
com_microsoft_outlook_customFld8
com_microsoft_outlook_homeStreet
com_microsoft_outlook_homeCity
com_microsoft_outlook_homeState
com_microsoft_outlook_homeZip
com_microsoft_outlook_homeCountry
com_microsoft_outlook_firstName
com_microsoft_outlook_lastName
com_microsoft_outlook_suffix
com_microsoft_outlook_title
com_microsoft_outlook_notes
com_microsoft_outlook_workStreet
com_microsoft_outlook_workCity
com_microsoft_outlook_workState
com_microsoft_outlook_workZip
com_microsoft_outlook_workCountry
com_microsoft_outlook_otherStreet
com_microsoft_outlook_otherCity
com_microsoft_outlook_otherState
com_microsoft_outlook_otherZip
com_microsoft_outlook_otherCountry
com_microsoft_outlook_interests
com_microsoft_outlook_japanese
com_microsoft_outlook_birthday
com_microsoft_outlook_anniversary
com_microsoft_outlook_customDate1
com_microsoft_outlook_customDate2
com_microsoft_outlook_children
com_microsoft_outlook_furigana_full_name
com_microsoft_outlook_firstNameFurigana
com_microsoft_outlook_lastNameFurigana
com_microsoft_outlook_companyFurigana
com_microsoft_outlook_spouseFurigana
com_microsoft_outlook_childrenFurigana
com_microsoft_outlook_interests
com_microsoft_outlook_projects
com_microsoft_outlook_categories
com_microsoft_outlook_primaryCategory
com_microsoft_outlook_flagged
com_microsoft_outlook_isgroup
com_microsoft_outlook_hasStartDate
com_microsoft_outlook_startDate
com_microsoft_outlook_hasDueDate
kMDItemDueDate
com_microsoft_outlook_has_reminder
com_microsoft_outlook_completed
com_microsoft_outlook_completedDate
</allattrs>
<displayattrs>kMDItemTitle
kMDItemPhoneNumbers
kMDItemEmailAddresses
kMDItemInstantMessageAddresses
kMDItemContentModificationDate
</displayattrs>
</type>
<type name="com.microsoft.outlook15.event">
<allattrs>com_microsoft_outlook_has_text_content
kMDItemTextContent
kMDItemTitle
com_microsoft_outlook_recordID
com_microsoft_outlook_folderID
com_microsoft_outlook_accountID
kMDItemCoverage
kMDItemDueDate
com_microsoft_outlook_hasStartDate
com_microsoft_outlook_hasDueDate
com_microsoft_outlook_startDate
com_microsoft_outlook_endDate
kMDItemWhereFroms
kMDItemComment
com_microsoft_outlook_timeZone
com_microsoft_outlook_recurrence
com_microsoft_outlook_recurring
com_microsoft_outlook_allDay
com_microsoft_outlook_has_reminder
com_microsoft_outlook_freeBusy
com_microsoft_outlook_free_busy_value
com_microsoft_outlook_parentRecordID
kMDItemContactKeywords
kMDItemKeywords
kMDItemProjects
com_microsoft_outlook_projects
com_microsoft_outlook_categories
com_microsoft_outlook_primaryCategory
com_microsoft_outlook_attendees
com_microsoft_outlook_attendee_emails
</allattrs>
<displayattrs>kMDItemTitle
kMDItemCoverage
kMDItemDueDate
kMDItemWhereFroms
</displayattrs>
</type>
<type name="com.microsoft.outlook15.message">
<allattrs>kMDItemTitle
com_microsoft_outlook_recordID
kMDItemContentCreationDate
com_microsoft_outlook_messageSent
com_microsoft_outlook_messageReceived
com_microsoft_outlook_priority
com_microsoft_outlook_flag
com_microsoft_outlook_unread
kMDItemContentModificationDate
kMDItemCoverage
kMDItemKeywords
kMDItemProjects
com_microsoft_outlook_has_text_content
kMDItemTextContent
kMDItemAuthors
kMDItemRecipients
com_microsoft_outlook_folderID
com_microsoft_outlook_junkLikelihood
com_microsoft_outlook_size
com_microsoft_outlook_newsAccountID
com_microsoft_outlook_accountID
com_microsoft_outlook_repliedTo
com_microsoft_outlook_forwarded
com_microsoft_outlook_redirected
com_microsoft_outlook_toRecipients
com_microsoft_outlook_toEmailAddresses
com_microsoft_outlook_ccRecipients
com_microsoft_outlook_ccEmailAddresses
com_microsoft_outlook_bccRecipients
com_microsoft_outlook_bccEmailAddresses
com_microsoft_outlook_attachments
com_microsoft_outlook_has_attachments
com_microsoft_outlook_has_mentioned_me
com_microsoft_outlook_projects
com_microsoft_outlook_categories
com_microsoft_outlook_primaryCategory
com_microsoft_outlook_flagged
com_microsoft_outlook_author_email_addresses
com_microsoft_outlook_recpient_email_addresses
com_microsoft_outlook_isFromMailingList
com_microsoft_outlook_hasStartDate
com_microsoft_outlook_startDate
com_microsoft_outlook_hasDueDate
kMDItemDueDate
com_microsoft_outlook_has_reminder
com_microsoft_outlook_completed
com_microsoft_outlook_completedDate
</allattrs>
<displayattrs>kMDItemContentCreationDate
kMDItemAuthors
kMDItemRecipients
kMDItemCoverage
kMDItemContentModificationDate
</displayattrs>
</type>
<type name="com.microsoft.outlook15.note">
<allattrs>kMDItemTitle
com_microsoft_outlook_recordID
kMDItemContentCreationDate
kMDItemContentModificationDate
com_microsoft_outlook_has_text_content
kMDItemTextContent
kMDItemKeywords
kMDItemProjects
com_microsoft_outlook_folderID
com_microsoft_outlook_accountID
com_microsoft_outlook_projects
com_microsoft_outlook_categories
com_microsoft_outlook_primaryCategory
</allattrs>
<displayattrs>kMDItemTitle
kMDItemContentCreationDate
kMDItemContentModificationDate
</displayattrs>
</type>
<type name="com.microsoft.outlook15.task">
<allattrs>com_microsoft_outlook_has_text_content
kMDItemTextContent
kMDItemTitle
com_microsoft_outlook_recordID
kMDItemContentModificationDate
kMDItemComment
com_microsoft_outlook_recurring
com_microsoft_outlook_recurrence
com_microsoft_outlook_recurrence_type
com_microsoft_outlook_priority
com_microsoft_outlook_folderID
com_microsoft_outlook_accountID
kMDItemProjects
com_microsoft_outlook_projects
com_microsoft_outlook_categories
com_microsoft_outlook_primaryCategory
com_microsoft_outlook_hasStartDate
com_microsoft_outlook_startDate
com_microsoft_outlook_hasDueDate
kMDItemDueDate
com_microsoft_outlook_has_reminder
com_microsoft_outlook_completed
com_microsoft_outlook_completedDate
</allattrs>
<displayattrs>kMDItemTitle
kMDItemDueDate
</displayattrs>
</type>
</types>
</schema>
Hope that helps.
Another related link: http://blog.stevex.net/2011/03/outlook-2011-smart-folder-with-raw-query/
Info on mdl query syntax: https://developer.apple.com/library/archive/documentation/Carbon/Conceptual/SpotlightQuery/Concepts/QueryFormat.html
Value examples that you can make a raw query against.
com_microsoft_outlook_accountID = 1
com_microsoft_outlook_author_email_addresses = (
"*** Email address is removed for privacy ***"
)
com_microsoft_outlook_categories = (
98
)
com_microsoft_outlook_completed = 0
com_microsoft_outlook_flagged = 0
com_microsoft_outlook_folderID = 108
com_microsoft_outlook_forwarded = 0
com_microsoft_outlook_has_attachments = 0
com_microsoft_outlook_has_mentioned_me = 0
com_microsoft_outlook_has_reminder = 1
com_microsoft_outlook_has_text_content = 1
com_microsoft_outlook_hasDueDate = 0
com_microsoft_outlook_hasStartDate = 0
com_microsoft_outlook_messageReceived = 2016-09-01 20:46:56 +0000
com_microsoft_outlook_messageSent = 2016-09-01 20:46:54 +0000
com_microsoft_outlook_primaryCategory = 98
com_microsoft_outlook_priority = 0
com_microsoft_outlook_recordID = 646385
com_microsoft_outlook_recpient_email_addresses = (
"*** Email address is removed for privacy ***"
)
com_microsoft_outlook_redirected = 0
com_microsoft_outlook_repliedTo = 0
com_microsoft_outlook_size = 4
com_microsoft_outlook_toEmailAddresses = (
"*** Email address is removed for privacy ***"
)
com_microsoft_outlook_toRecipients = (
"GUPTA, Sunil"
)
com_microsoft_outlook_unread = 1
kMDItemAlternateNames = (
"/Users/i804008/Library/Group Containers/UBF8T346G9.Office/Outlook/Outlook 15 Profiles/Main Profile/Data/Messages/143/8F74F504-DF2B-40C7-8AFE-7AF73D95486D.olk15Message"
)
kMDItemAuthors = (
"Wu, Will"
)
kMDItemContentCreationDate = 2016-09-01 20:46:56 +0000
kMDItemContentModificationDate = 2016-09-01 20:47:02 +0000
kMDItemContentType = "com.microsoft.outlook15.message"
kMDItemContentTypeTree = (
"com.microsoft.outlook15.message",
"public.email-message",
"public.message",
"public.data",
"public.item"
)
kMDItemDateAdded = 2016-09-01 20:47:01 +0000
kMDItemDisplayName = "aabbccdd"
kMDItemFSContentChangeDate = 2016-09-01 20:47:02 +0000
kMDItemFSCreationDate = 2016-09-01 20:47:01 +0000
kMDItemFSCreatorCode = ""
kMDItemFSFinderFlags = 0
kMDItemFSHasCustomIcon = (null)
kMDItemFSInvisible = 0
kMDItemFSIsExtensionHidden = 0
kMDItemFSIsStationery = (null)
kMDItemFSLabel = 0
kMDItemFSName = "8F74F504-DF2B-40C7-8AFE-7AF73D95486D.olk15Message"
kMDItemFSNodeCount = (null)
kMDItemFSOwnerGroupID = 1694527156
kMDItemFSOwnerUserID = 718023034
kMDItemFSSize = 4583
kMDItemFSTypeCode = ""
kMDItemKind = "olk15_message"
kMDItemLastUsedDate = 2016-09-01 20:46:56 +0000
kMDItemLogicalSize = 4583
kMDItemPhysicalSize = 8192
kMDItemRecipients = (
"GUPTA, Sunil"
)
kMDItemTitle = "aabbccdd"
kMDItemUseCount = 1
kMDItemUsedDates = (
"2016-09-01 04:00:00 +0000"
kMDItemOwnerUserID = 718023034
com_microsoft_outlook_accountID = 1
com_microsoft_outlook_allDay = 0
I know this answer comes a little bit too late, but I found a quick and dirty workaround, which doesn't really interfere too much with a normal workflow.
Just add yourself as a recipient of your own emails.
Simple as that. You will see your own answers in the conversation mode thread, since you will actually receive these emails. Your name will show as the sender so it's easy to see these are actually sent replies.
Not ideal, but it works and it's a non-intrusive workaround while we wait for Microsoft to fix what I can only describe as an annoying bug 😛
I had the same problem with my PC when I upgraded Outlook. I was able to resolve it by going to File/Account Settings and then changing by default email account, rebooting and then changing it back and rebooting. All works fine in both Inboxes!
Seems to be fixed on Outlook 16.53
Try Thunderbird which manage threads the right way since many years ( probably more than 10 )
View > Sort by > Threaded
As a collateral benefit Thunderbird is an open source software thus you can trust it because you can check. I used it at a large scale company ( ~ 3000 users ). Compared with Outlook, Mail, Thunderbird was the one with the less support questions and the less malware attacks ( on a more than 10 years security supervising ). On the other hand the loser was… ; I let you guess it as an easy game 😊.
The future of Thunderbird is unsure, but I am still using it to provide me a common and efficient interface to many web mail servers which are much too slow to work with ( Gmail… ).
This is working as expected when the "New Outlook" experience for Mac is enabled. I did a comparison between the "Old" and the "New" Outlook and indeed the main message list behaviour is different between the two.
The version I am running:
Microsoft Outlook for Mac
Version 16.71 (230312000)
Try:
File: Options: Mail - check "Enable preview for Rights protected emails"
Go to accounts settings and check the box Use Cached Exchange Mode, close outlook and reopen
