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I have a small commercial building with about 6 iPads that were set up by a marginally competent vendor. They periodically require passcodes and Apple ID passwords and this has become a serious inconvenience.

The iPads are set up throughout the building and control things like lighting, access doors, and the security system. Individual applications have their own authentication procedure and everyone in the building is authorized to use the system. The Apple ID is owned by management and has a very secure password.

Here's the problem:

The iPads constantly prompt for the Apple ID password, which only management knows. This has resulted in someone from management having to go to every room in the building and enter the very secure (takes long to enter) on every iPad. And I've watched them do this -- it prompts for it over and over. First it asks for it for no particular reason. Then it asks for it to update software. Then it asks for it again for no particular reason. I should make a video of this, it's ridiculous.

This means application additions and updates have to wait for management to make rounds to every iPad and enter every password two or three times. The prompts for the Apple ID password also seem to appear randomly and are system modal -- you can't just ignore them or hit the home key, you must answer them.

There has to be a better way.

How can I deal with users trying to access emergency functions having to find the "Cancel" button on an Apple ID prompt that has appeared for no particular reason?

How can I allow users to install and update applications without having to go to a manager to get the Apple ID password?

Are we doing everything wrong? Is there some simple, sane way for a very small entity to manage a small number of iPads that solves these issues?

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  • This is really too broad. Tons of great questions, my glib answer is why not use a MDM to manage these touchless? Would you consider editing this down to one question to start and remove all the side questions?
    – bmike ♦
    Dec 1, 2019 at 18:27
  • @bmike I reduced it to just the question of getting the device to not require the Apple ID to be entered. I looked at MDM solutions and couldn't find anything that seemed to do quite what they want.
    – David Schwartz
    Dec 1, 2019 at 18:54
  • @historystamp That would mean users couldn't install or update applications. "If it isn't broken don't fix it" doesn't apply to things that get security updates for zero days or that interact with IoT devices that themselves get updates. "Ordinary use" is a moving target and the same software won't keep people satisfied for long.
    – David Schwartz
    Dec 1, 2019 at 19:08
  • I'm not bothered by password requests on my iPhone SE. You need an mdm, don't let the perfect get in the way of the better. Why... Lets you control updates. Do you have the ipad locked to one app?
    – historystamp
    Dec 1, 2019 at 19:08
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    You still have 4 very broad questions. I’ll make two suggestions, but you have a budget / cost / decision to make that will then illuminate how you tacks managing and supporting things. It all comes down to cost and value - how much do you value your time (or your colleagues time) and then work towards making decisions and learnings that optimize your costs and constraints.
    – bmike ♦
    Dec 1, 2019 at 19:23

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I’d say - superficially you’re doing it wrong. I’m sure there were good intentions to start, but a little professional management would go a long way in your situation. You'll need automation and someone to learn and/or explain how these iPads will be managed securely:

  • There’s no fighting the inherent design of iOS to be tied closely to an AppleID.
  • You need MDM supervision to lock these devices to your business in supervised mode.
  • MDM allows easy purchasing and provisioning of iOS apps centrally and securely (no password required on the devices)
  • You don’t need to be so draconian on pass codes or local accounts now that you've decoupled management and automated setup / wiping.

MDM frees you to hand the devices to people that could break things by not being trained how to operate the iPad settings and updates. Don’t blame the vendor or the people, just make it free / inexpensive / reliable to get things back where they need to be. iOS devices can be managed, secured and ready to work like a refrigerator or espresso machine and not like a Mac or PC needing paid help desk and a lot of end user training.

If you’re budget constrained. I would dip your toes in with a free - hosted MDM like Jamf Now - You get three enrollments for free forever and can read up on how to assign devices and apps systematically.

The reason I recommended that one is they specialize in MDM for teams without dedicated IT support and have extremely helpful user support and paid support for customers.

Another option would be Ground Control - they have a more “image” focused, so if you wanted to treat these iPads like a cart of devices all set up the same, explore their offering:

Once you’ve gotten one or two devices enrolled and played around a bit, you can decide if it’s time for you to manage the AppleID for this company using Apple Business Manager:

There is a cost you need to invest in terms of time you’ll spend learning to manage this, so I would make an estimate how much opportunity cost you’re losing by managing things and learning and making mistakes vs paying a team that knows how to run things to come in for a fixed period / fixed cost and get you stabilized. That way you’re happy with paying so you can make money elsewhere (or control budget elsewhere) or that you’re happy having you/your staff learn how to manage IT whether it’s your job or a side assignment.

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  • I looked into jamfcloud, and it seems to do the opposite of what I want. It enables management to do more and users to do less. I want to enable users to do more so management does less. If there's any way for it to make the Apple ID prompts go away, I can't find it. And that's the major problem -- someone walks up to an iPad, wants to install/update software, and needs to get management to do it.
    – David Schwartz
    Dec 1, 2019 at 20:11
  • No - you can't get away from the prompts without supervision / management. JAMF Cloud can lock down an iPad so that hospitals issue them to every patient, schools issue them to savvy teenagers bent on breaking things. You want MDM to prevent that prompt in the first place it seems and it can do that or schedule a push for updates for you - hands free. @DavidSchwartz
    – bmike ♦
    Dec 1, 2019 at 20:18
  • To enable people to do more, Apple Business and VPP is the way to go. You push apps to the device channel so updates don't even require the password to install @DavidSchwartz - I guess I finally get to yes, you can do what you ask with some back and forth. I added docs.jamf.com/10.14.0/jamf-pro/administrator-guide/… to the answer above.
    – bmike ♦
    Dec 1, 2019 at 20:20

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