The right fan on my mac stopped working, I have scheduled an appointment at the mac store genius bar (its still in warranty).

I have installed a second hard drive in place of the super drive, and also upgraded the hard drive (to SSD) and the ram (to 16GB).

Do I need to restore everything before taking it into the mac store for repair? (ie put back in the superdrive and hdd)?

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Did you install the second hard drive yourself? If so then your best bet is to swap your SuperDrive back in before taking it in for service.

I cover this scenario in more depth with this answer:

Apple's warranty (AppleCare) is specific about what components are user replaceable/serviceable. The hard drive on an older MacBook for instance is user replaceable, AppleCare used to have the option to send you a replacement hard drive along with a disposable ESD wriststrap for you to install it yourself.

The difference though is the hard drive in the MacBook was almost as easy to access as the RAM in the Mac mini. The Mac mini's hard drive is a different story. In order to access it you have to expose the logic board which increases the chance of damage from ESD if proper precautions aren't taken. Because of this the only user replaceable part in the new minis is the RAM, since the logic board is still pretty well protected when only removing the RAM.

The Magnusson Moss act essentially says they can't deny warranty unless they can prove damage. It wouldn't be hard for Apple to say "The upgrade situation you described to us implies that there was a high risk for ESD damage, which has likely caused such and such issue".

The flip side though is that if an Apple Authorized Service Provider (AASP) installs a third party hard drive your AppleCare will remain intact because the AASP has proved to Apple that its technicians follow all safety rules and procedures when working on Macs, essentially the same reason Apple allows them to perform warranty work. Apple would then not be involved in the hard drive's warranty (though most HDDs have 3-5 year warranties of their own) but the remaining components would still be recognized as "in warranty" by Apple. The most you would need to do is provide a receipt for the service you had done at an AASP.

source: I was "that guy" at the Genius Bar for several years who had to turn people away from warranty coverage for unauthorized upgrades & repairs. As soon as your Mac goes out of warranty I definitely encourage a DIY attitude, however I would try to heed the above advice while it's under AppleCare.

Basically if it was a user replaceable part (it's not) you wouldn't run much risk of them blaming a failure on your upgrade. The problem though is that with the optical drive not being considered a user replaceable component, and the replacement being a somewhat major (in their eyes) modification, they have every right to deny coverage since they have no way of knowing if proper ESD precautions and whatnot were followed.

If I were you I'd play it safe. The Superdrive installation isn't terribly difficult and could save you a lot of arguing if you don't get a Genius who just looks the other way.

  • Thanks, I'll take the precaution and put the superdrive back - makes sense, but the HDD & RAM are user replaceable so I could leave them in?
    – Anil
    Aug 15, 2014 at 19:34
  • @JustAnil - Exactly. The RAM is for sure user replaceable and some models had user replaceable hard drives. Regardless of the MacBook Pro model the hard drive is pretty easy to replace, even if Apple doesn't define it as user replaceable. With that in mind most technicians will turn a blind eye to it.
    – Mr Rabbit
    Aug 15, 2014 at 20:38

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