I have just bought a MacBook Pro 15 and I am finding the Menu Bar very difficult to work with.

For example; if the calculator is in the bottom right of the screen an I am focussing my eyes on it I can't even see the Menu bar. If I want to use something from the menu I have to push the mouse 3 or 4 times with the track pad to get up to the menu (e.g. for a convert function) then 3 or 4 times to get back down.

Is it possible to make the menus appear in the applications?

  • Similar to apple.stackexchange.com/questions/46165/… – nohillside Aug 9 '14 at 17:06
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    If it takes you 3 or 4 moves to get to the top of the screen, you might want to increase your tracking speed (in System Preferences -> Trackpad preference pane -> Point & Click tab). – Gordon Davisson Aug 10 '14 at 1:48
  • → Gordon: please make an answer of your comment since you've seen the real hidden problem and suggested the right fix :). – dan Aug 10 '14 at 13:46
  • @GordonDavisson Then that means you don't have fine control of the cursor and even with the most speed it takes 2 moves – mmmmmm Aug 18 '14 at 21:25
  • @Mark: tracking speed is not linear -- if you move your finger across the pad slowly, it'll take a couple of moves to get all the way across, of you move faster it'll go further in a single pass. I can get from bottom to top in a single (fast) move on my MBP 15", with the trackpad on anything except the slowest two settings (and even on the second-slowest setting, I can do it if I move my finger fast enough). – Gordon Davisson Aug 19 '14 at 14:28

No is the simple answer.

The Mac UI is based on the premise of the application menu always being at the top. The reasoning was that you just have to move the mouse to the top of the screen to ensure you were at the menu, no hunting to find the menu bar on a window that could be anywhere on the screen.

This has been the case since the beginning of Mac OS in the early 1980s

This can get some getting used to if you are coming from Windows.

  • Is there a complicated answer that ends in yes? :) e.g. an application that does some sort of compositing and duplicates the contents of the menu bar above the current Window? Why would you be hunting for a window anyway? The menu bar changes based on the active window so presumably you are already working in it. – opticyclic Aug 9 '14 at 16:02
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    Unlesss an application is written specifically to put menus on the windows(and some java based apps are built this way) then the answer is probably no. – Paul Gilfedder Aug 9 '14 at 16:03
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    @opticyclic there is no complicated answer that gets you to yes here I'm afraid. This is OS X. I can't speak for everyone, but after time, having menus attached to windows start to seem...wrong. – Ian C. Aug 9 '14 at 16:41
  • On searching a bit more, it seems like there is an application called DejaMenu that makes the menus available in a popup (although not docking them to the applications themselves) gigaom.com/2009/01/20/how-to-add-mac-menus-on-multiple-monitors The homepage is down but I found a copy here d.asgeirsson.is/Yu6m and it works in Mavericks. – opticyclic Aug 9 '14 at 17:11
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    Unfortunately the original screen was 9" now 3-4 times the size so yes you now have to move 3-4 times as far – mmmmmm Aug 18 '14 at 21:27

Short answer: No, it is not possible to modify the Mac UI in that way, any more than it is possible to modify the Windows UI the other way.

Long answer: You could code your own programs to put menus on the window. Mac users will complain bitterly about it. Every time I open Inkscape (which does put it's own menus on the window) I end up using another application's 'Save' on the main window.

You have obviously recently switched from Windows or Linux. Neither method is "better", it's a design choice. Like most other switchers (in both directions) you try to remake the new UI in the image of the old.

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    Coming from Ubuntu Linux I do have have both options available. When I have to constantly push my trackpad to get to the menus I would say it is a bad design choice for larger screens and that having the option to choose which you prefer is "better". – opticyclic Aug 10 '14 at 2:24
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    This is a general Mac stance towards the user: "WE know what's best for you. You just conform." This goes for almost everything - shortcuts, display settings, themes, launchers, bars, windows behavior... the customization is almost none. And for some reason, the community seems to praise that as a benefit. – Ondra Žižka Nov 14 '17 at 16:14

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