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What are the most effective ways the community can influence the evolution of Apple software products besides not buying them? Are there any valid ways to provide to Apple some solid feedback via signing an electronic petition or something?

Please note that I'm not trying to start a flame war. I just wonder what can be done by an average loyal MacOS user when he doesn't like what he gets.

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Please excuse my heavy editing of the question, but if you simply want to know how to give Apple feedback, it's better to narrow your question to just that. If you have specific problems you want to ask about and search for a solution, I suggest you post seperate questions for those. – Gerry Aug 17 '12 at 14:49

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You can give Apple some feedback. They have a dedicated form for feedback on the following URL:

http://www.apple.com/feedback/

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I'll avoid the controversial part of your question and just confront the root of the problem:

Full screen terminals can be made fullscreen and therefore their own spaces. Although you don't seem to have embraced the concept of tabbed terminals, which is an even better solution.

Furthermore, it's more than likely that every time you need an extra space, it's because you already have a window open that you wish to use on a separate space. Rather than clicking on the '+', you can just drag the window to the top right corner, onto the '+', and a new space will be made with the window moved to it. This is handy, since no matter how the space is made (via clicking or keyboard shortcut) the drag action is required anyway.

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tabs are different, I can not see all Terminals at once. I'm using it, for example, for permanently tailing logs. – shabunc Aug 17 '12 at 12:24
"I can not see all Terminals at once" …You can't see multiple spaces at once, either. – XAleXOwnZX Aug 17 '12 at 12:25
I can see all terminals in that very specific space. Using 2 large monitors, believe me, there is a difference between this approach and tabs. – shabunc Aug 17 '12 at 12:27
>every time you need an extra space, it's because you already have a window open that you wish to use on a separate space. This assumption is wrong. This spaces had been created on demand just exactly when I've been dragging something. – shabunc Aug 17 '12 at 12:28
i dont understand "This spaces had been created on demand just exactly when I've been dragging something." – XAleXOwnZX Aug 17 '12 at 12:44
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For what it's worth, if you look at the court transcripts of the Samsung-Apple lawsuit, you will realize that Apple spent millions of dollars to get you to think that they make things that you happen to like.

That's just silly though. We all love the hardware, but the numbers tell us that Apple was a boutique computer manufacturer, and now they are a behemoth. That does not happen without listening to the customer.

I agree with your unspoken point. The assumption that we are to fork over cash or GTFO is a false dichotomy. It's absurd that the implication is that you should just be happy they let you buy the product. That is not how it works, or really, how it ever worked.

Customers are no longer passive, supine, barely tolerated, and disrespected creatures.

If you are careful, you can step around the NDA and submit bugs to:

http://openradar.appspot.com

It's a unofficial place to report on weird things that happen with complex software, but it's a bug tracker, not a forum. I'm not affiliated, but I am sure glad it's there.

The totally closed bug tracker might work for developers, although I can't see how. It's good to read that every now and then. Again, secrecy usually benefits the more powerful party. But read the court docs, submit bugs to their radar, and the open one, and we can all move away from the old way. I'll take the downvotes, certainly for this answer, but frankly, this is a legitimate question, and hopefully I have provided a legitimate answer.

Post your bugs. Ignore what Apple said in the ads. Read what they disclosed in court.

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