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I have been reading up on SSD technology and don't know of any first hand reports on what happens when an SSD eventually fails due to over use. I am most interested in the SSD that apple includes as a factory option - but aftermarket information is certainly welcome.

If there are no overt signs of aging and wear, might it be possible to measure how much extra storage space remains to cover for failures and wear leveling? (assuming the SSD controller will pool memory and avoid bad/overused blocks before failure)

I am somewhat familiar with failure modes of hard drive storage but looking for similarities or differences between HDD and SSD. For example, the OS can detect (presumably using fsck and journaling) problems writing new data reliably to a HDD and warns you the drive is now mounted in read only mode. Tools like Drive Genius allow all sorts of testing specific to HDD but I'm unaware of tools that dig into SSD for whatever data may be available.

Rather than guessing or predicting how long an SSD will last, are there objective measures we can take to document how storage is aging and check in on wear leveling statistics to measure what happens when SSD are close to the end of their useful lives?

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Check out this post at Coding Horror: "I feel ethically and morally obligated to let you in on a dirty little secret I've discovered in the last two years of full time SSD ownership. Solid state hard drives fail. A lot. And not just any fail. I'm talking about catastrophic, oh-my-God-what-just-happened-to-all-my-data instant gigafail. It's not pretty." codinghorror.com/blog/2011/05/… –  Dave Nelson May 11 '11 at 15:05
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Thank you - awesome link. We all can look at a race motorcycle and tell why it is so much faster than a street bike and know in our guts that when it fails at speed, it isn't going to be pretty. I don't see the industry educating us to the risks inherent with this new speed. –  bmike May 11 '11 at 15:34
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My experience: first drive failed in the first week. Replacement drive lasted about a year then failed when I tried to do a system update. –  Steve Moser May 18 '11 at 2:27
    
@SteveMoser Clearly failures unrelated to write cycle limits of SSD will happen all the time based on other failure modes and/or manufacturing environmental considerations. –  bmike Mar 11 at 21:22

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"Does it just get slower and slower running garbage collection more and more often trying to find a place to store data as the flash storage system degrades?"

^^ This is what I've seen on two occasions (Aftermarkets tho, possibly the same in Apple drives).

They didn't entirely stop working because I eventually replaced them, since things become like a Windows XP after three years of use and no maintenance.

Another SSD I remember failing did it probably from day three, when it failed to mount on a few occasions. Then it failed to mount again later the same day until it eventually never mounted again. It was under warranty and I replaced it.

The SSDs I still have (non Apple) don't show signs of shrink, probably because the space you lose is not a lot compared to the size of the drive. I'm guessing that would be the case.

Although drives tend to live 2-3 years (SSDs), I'd say be prepared for a -possible- change after 1 year.

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Excellent information - especially since any new tech will have more initial failures it will be hard to separate the modes of premature failure from modes of eventual failure. thanks for calling both out :-) –  bmike May 11 '11 at 13:26
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I've seen several mentions on twitter of people doing a yearly erase of their MacBook air and hoping for Lion and trim support to address this. twitter.com/th_in_gs/status/68991207367393280 –  bmike May 13 '11 at 21:47
    
For the record, my MBA has 1.5 years now and running 10.8. Never did an erase but I filled the drive once (by mistake). After removing the offending files everything went back to normal. To be honest I didn't feel anything strange when there were 'only' 20GB Free, but I panicked and proceeded to remove files. My MBA has a 256GB drive. (Mid-2011). –  Martín Marconcini Dec 11 '12 at 18:55
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Now that TRIM support has been added to just about all Macs with SSD from Apple - things seem to run very smoothly without needing any erases. Even with versions, local Time Machine storage, my 256 SSD hasn't come close to 2/3 full (same vintage as yours). –  bmike Dec 11 '12 at 19:00

My aftermarket Intel SSD had a bad sector, which was reported by Disk Utility. From my understanding, the SSD will get slower and eventually have more bad sectors, which will be noticed if you do a Disk Utility scan.

Warnings because of SMART-data reporting more disk errors than acceptable aren't build into the OS, as far as I know. Disk Utility does show SMART errors, but not in much detail. Tools like SMARTReporter will give you warnings when your SSD is degrading.

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Also, some aftermarket SSDs don't even support SMART, so be careful. –  Fake Name May 11 '11 at 8:22
    
Plus: Even if SMART says your disk is in awesome condition, it can still –  JustSid May 11 '11 at 9:39
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With SSD - the idea of a "sector" is still confusing to me. I assume the drive controller has a virtual map of what it pretends is a real sector but in practice is mapped all over the place in cells on the flash storage and subject to garbage collection and relocation/ refreshing as needed. –  bmike May 11 '11 at 13:28

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